Quail Ridge 2009 Spring League

[magic]

WEEK 4 OF LEAGUE

There was $60 paid into the ace pool to bring the total to $212. Jeff Junte hit an ace on hole # 10. Nice ace! I think something like 4 out of the last 5 aces have been on hole 10. Kind of odd. Ace pool pays out 70%, so $148 goes to Jeff and $64 carries over to next week.

There were two CTP’s for each flight. Below are the winners.
8 – A – Morgan Hart
9 – B – Alex Romero
10 – C – Josh Lovelace
11 – D – Chas Kranz
12 – E – Bailey Polkinghorne
13 – A – Don The Legend
14 – B – Andy Majesky
15 – C – James Fox
16 – D – Gary Polkinghorne
17 – E – Debbie Polkinghorne

Below are the scores. The score on the left in bold is your total with ONE drop week. There will be a total of TWO. The weekly scores are to the right. Scores with an * are played cali. Your score is a 126 if neither partner shows up.

A FLIGHT
122 Morgan Hart / Eric Twedell 39 44 43 40
126 Brian Moskop / Jim Wamhoff 46 42 43 41
129 Don Moellenbeck / Sarah Hokom 40 45 44 46
130 Eric Lewis / Dustin Ward 46 41 43 47
132 Jim Misuraca / Jerry Barklage 44* 45* 43 54*
133 Brad Allen / Tim Bruce 47 45 41 50*
218 Steve Bagnard / Eric Hall 126 126 45 47

B FLIGHT
136 Jim Jenkins / Alex Romero 47 48 44 45
137 Jay Whitehead / Jay Ford 44 47 46 48*
137 Shane Chesher / Marc Yadamec 47 45 45 49
137 Jeff Junte / Dan Moss 52 46 47 44
141 Eric Johnson / Herb Demello 49 47 46 48
142 Josh Cole / Mark Dawson 48 45* 49 52*
142 Joe Hart / Simon Hart 49 44 49 49
144 Jeff Woeber / Ryan McCarthy 52 44 49 51
144 Andy Majesky / Chris Horvath 50 44 52 50
145 Greg Kuehn / Dan Nixon 51 45 49 51

C FLIGHT
141 Shawn Boley / Damon Galmiche 49 46 49 46
145 Doug McCormick / Jeff Britton 48 48* 49 55*
146 Jim Nelms / Dave Gist 51 48 48 50*
147 David Bates / Brian Strokotter 48 49 51 50
147 Rick Maasen / Ryan Nanney 52* 48 49 50
147 Josh Lovelace / James Ohmes 53 50 48 49
148 Adam Sommer / James Fox 50 48 50 52
149 Brian McQuade / Steve Vanbooven 53 50 48 51
151 Brian Walls / Steve Light 49 52* 50* 55
153 Tim Wiegard / John Borgmeyer 54 51 48 55*

D FLIGHT
149 Steve Hamilton / DJ Polk 51 50 50 49
151 Eric Milner / Mike Lowell 55 52 48 51
152 Gary Polkinghorne / Andy Rohde 52 50 50 52
152 Nick Wilson / Jeremy Lawrence 51 50 51 52
153 Brad Stuart / Justin Trbovich 53 51 49 53
153 Brandon Mueller / Rob Martchink 52 50 52 51*
154 Anthony Gambetta / Randy Singer 53 55 49 52
155 Drew Peterson / Adam Schneider 51 126 50 54
156 Justin Douglas / Chas Kranz 55 52 51 53
157 Jake Schmitz / Brandon Schowatter 53 54 50 54
235 Cody Meyers / Anthony Silvers 55* 54* 126 126

E FLIGHT
183 Kendall Cranney / Eric Rahm 64 61 58 126
196 Becca Winterringer / Mota Ries 63 61 72* 81*
210 Debbie Polkinghorne / Gary Polkinghorne 72 72 68 70
218 Bailey Polkinghorne / Brekka Polkinghorne 77 72 74 72
248 Nate Williams / Nick Hudgens 60 62 126 126

[magic]

WEEK 5 OF LEAGUE

There was $56 paid into the ace pool to bring the total to $120. No aces were hit.

There were two CTP’s for each flight. Below are the winners.
9 – A – Brad Allen
10 – B – Marc Yadamec
11 – E – Gary Polkinghorne
12 – D – Mike Lowell
13 – C – James Fox
14 – A – Morgan Hart
15 – E – Kendall Cranney
16 – B – Jeff Junte
17 – D – Rob Martchink
18 – C – Josh Lovelace

Below are the scores. The score on the left in bold is your total with BOTH drop weeks. The weekly scores are to the right. Scores with an * are played cali. Your score is a 126 if neither partner shows up.

A FLIGHT
121 Morgan Hart / Eric Twedell 39 44 43 40 42
123 Brian Moskop / Jim Wamhoff 46 42 43 41 40
123 Don Moellenbeck / Sarah Hokom 40 45 44 46 39
125 Eric Lewis / Dustin Ward 46 41 43 47 41*
126 Brad Allen / Tim Bruce 47 45 41 50* 40
131 Jim Misuraca / Jerry Barklage 44* 45* 43 54* 44*
138 Steve Bagnard / Eric Hall 126 126 45 47 46

B FLIGHT
133 Jeff Junte / Dan Moss 52 46 47 44 43
136 Jim Jenkins / Alex Romero 47 48 44 45 47*
136 Jay Whitehead / Jay Ford 44 47 46 48 46
136 Shane Chesher / Marc Yadamec 47 45 45 49 46
137 Jeff Woeber / Ryan McCarthy 52 44 49 51 44
139 Eric Johnson / Herb Demello 49 47 46 48 46
139 Joe Hart / Simon Hart 49 44 49 49 46
139 Andy Majesky / Chris Horvath 50 44 52 50 45
140 Josh Cole / Mark Dawson 48 45* 49 52* 47*
141 Greg Kuehn / Dan Nixon 51 45 49 51 47

C FLIGHT
137 Shawn Boley / Damon Galmiche 49 46 49 46 45
142 Rick Maasen / Ryan Nanney 52* 48 49 50 45
142 Josh Lovelace / James Ohmes 53 50 48 49 45
143 Doug McCormick / Jeff Britton 48 48* 49 55 47
143 Adam Sommer / James Fox 50 48 50 52 45
143 David Bates / Brian Strokotter 48 49 51 50 46
144 Jim Nelms / Tony Pavia 51 48 48 50* 48
146 Brian Walls / Steve Light 49 52* 50* 55 47
148 Tim Wiegard / John Borgmeyer 54 51 48 55* 49
149 Brian McQuade / Steve Vanbooven 53 50 48 51 51

D FLIGHT
145 Eric Milner / Mike Lowell 55 52 48 51 46
147 Steve Hamilton / DJ Polk 51 50 50 49 48
148 Nick Wilson / Jeremy Lawrence 51 50 51 52 47
150 Brad Stuart / Justin Trbovich 53 51 49 53 50
150 Justin Douglas / Chas Kranz 55 52 51 53 47
152 Gary Polkinghorne / Andy Rohde 52 50 50 52 54
152 Anthony Gambetta / Randy Singer 53 55 49 52 51
152 Drew Peterson / Adam Schneider 51 126 50 54 51
153 Brandon Mueller / Rob Martchink 52 50 52 51* 53*
153 Jake Schmitz / Brandon Schowatter 53 54 50 54 50
235 Cody Meyers / Anthony Silvers 55* 54* 126 126 126

E FLIGHT
174 Kendall Cranney / Eric Rahm 64 61 58 126 55
177 Becca Winterringer / Mota Ries 63 61 72* 81* 53
204 Debbie Polkinghorne / Gary Polkinghorne 72 72 68 70 66
211 Bailey Polkinghorne / Brekka Polkinghorne 77 72 74 72 67
248 Nate Williams / Nick Hudgens 60 62 126 126 126

[emoney]

how were we one of the last people leaving the park and somehow the ctp wasn't mine? jeff did you junte me? i think teams should be paired up pregame. not who ever shows and wants to go along with whom ever.

[magic]

Hey Eric, cards go out starting at 4:00 and continue until 6:00. Not everyone can be there by 4:00 and others don't want to wait until 6:00. If you are one of those teams that starts at 4:00 you certainly don't want to HAVE to wait to be paired up with someone that can't make it until 6:00. If it makes you feel any better you will be paired up for the final night.

[emoney]

that would be why you set a league time. birch is 6pm sharp. and everyone shows and start on the assigned whole. is that the only league that does that?

[magic]

I really have no idea how White Birch does their league. I didn't think it was the same starting time for everyone. I could be wrong though. I could do the same thing for Quail Ridge, but I would probably lose 3/4 of the teams. No thanks. I think I will keep doing what has worked very well so far.

[Working Stiff]

I really have no idea how White Birch does their league. I didn't think it was the same starting time for everyone. I could be wrong though. I could do the same thing for Quail Ridge, but I would probably lose 3/4 of the teams. No thanks. I think I will keep doing what has worked very well so far.

White Birch does have a set starting time. The reason is/was A) you end up playing a lot of glow there most weeks, so it would be unfair to have guys who played 10 holes in the dark compare scores with guys who played all 36 in the sunlight and B) making sure the team pairings on the card rotate. The perception was that if you let teams show up at various times and card up, the same teams would play each other week after week and it would make it really easy for four friends to play on the same card and cheat. Why anyone would cheat to win a trophy at White Birch is beyond me, but that was the fear. Hazelwood also doesn't have to worry about fitting in the league and casuals because they can close their course, which is another thing that helps with the 6:00pm sharp starting time. I'm not sure if the QR league can really tell casuals they have to leave or not.

As you said, the flip side of this is that it keeps the league numbers down to a certain extent. Really, if any course called out for allowing teams to tee over a longer period it is White Birch, since once you get to around 24 teams on that little course it's backup city. However, White Birch has a following and a certain tradition that has built up, so it's hard to make changes to what they do.

Every place has to do what works. The 4-6 tee time at QR seems to be working, so there is really no need to change it.

[Jorge]

The rules are what they are. If you don't like it, you don't have to play. Simple as that.

[missing link]

so there

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[magic]

I am always open for comments and suggestions, but going to a set tee time is something I wouldn't even consider. To me it sounds like more of a pain for everyone involved. If I were to do something like that there wouldn't be close to the number of teams there are now. Let's say there was a set starting time and there were this many teams. Since the parking lot fills you might be one of those that has to park elsewhere and walk over. Then there is a chance that you would have to start on hole 16 since all of the holes would be filled. And then after finishing on 15 you would have one heck of a walk back to wherever you parked.

Not to mention that many CTP's probably wouldn't be picked up after the round. I always set the CTP's so I am the last one going through. If everyone started on a set hole then I would have to rely on other players to pick up CTP's. I know some would, but others wouldn't. If I had a CTP on hole 15 I'm not about to walk over there after my round and pick it up if someone forgot it. There is a chance it could get picked up the next day, but I'm not going to deal with that.

There is always the chance that someone could cheat when the same teams play together every time. My opinion is that those same teams would try to find a way to cheat no matter what. Whether it is trophies or cash on the line if you choose to cheat that is something you have to live with.

I won't be as harsh as Jorge, but if you don't like the way things are done at QR then there are other leagues out there to choose from.