jeffthrow6892 wrote:Now, my two cents.......maybe us Jeff's think alike, but I'm not thrilled with the entry fee, either. An RCF flight where the fee is more than $20 ??? Since this is a fundraiser, I personally would have had no problems with there not being ANY payout, & keeping the entry fee at the usual $ 20. It is what it is, I guess......again, that's just my opinion........
I completely agree with Jeff on this. If its a tournament, lets call it a tournament and have a payout. if it is a fundraiser, lets call it what it is, do away with the payout and gear the whole event towards fundraising. If people want a payout, there is always the option to throw an extra $5 down for super-pro. That way everyone gets what they want and you're not penalizing everyone for the wants of a few
Stubborn Puppet wrote:Somewhere in that calculation we are also buying trophies for all division winners. It really is a conundrum when it comes to whether to payout or lower the entry fee... If you lower the fee but don't payout, there are a lot of people who won't come because they don't pay unless they have a shot at getting a return on their investment. Others are still willing to pay because it is fun and they like that the money is actually going to support a cause. "You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't".
Also, there's inflation. The STLDGC hasn't raised its membership fees or merch prices (in fact some of those have gone down a lot) at all in the last 10(ish) years, despite the fact that the cost of everything has gone up about 30% since then. That has to come from somewhere and we have to carefully weigh the options for where. Fortunately, in an economic time that has managed to cripple and defunct many other clubs around the country and has driven others towards totally pay-to-play models for their courses, the STLDGC has been fortunate to have folks working hard to keep our membership numbers up to help offset it. This year, it doesn't look like we'll get close to the same number of members we had last year... and so on.
Do not read this as an excuse or dismissal of your very excellent points about the pricing. What you've said has, indeed, been listened to and will be used to help make more informed and, hopefully, palatable decisions on future events of this nature. I promise. Thank you.
Daniel, I appreciate all the work you do for the club. Volunteering is a thankless job and comes with a lot of challenges, like these posts. That said, I don't think you have the historical frame of reference that you're attempting to speak from. Trophies
: Are not that expensive. With 90 participants, it costs less than .50 per person at the event to have numerous trophies made and could be handled as a donation if sponsorship parameters are the same way they used to bePayout
: As I've already mentioned, you can offer the best of both worlds by offering the standard buy-in without
traditional payout and adding a super-pro side pot for those who "have" to win something to play an event.Inflation
: You are right, but we're not talking about consumable products the necessity of buying raw materials, paying employees, etc. We're talking about an intangible membership that is really a donation to support a local club. And, while membership has not gone up in a long time, the price of merchandise has (at least it did in 2010). As far as membership is concerned though, I would gladly pay $30/year if it came with more perks. as well as pay to play courses.Beer
: I have always been against adding cost of beer to an entry fee, but understand you can't sell beer, especially in the park. Again, past sponsorship parameters provided for free beers, which increased the value proposition of the club when it came to signing up members and charging for events.Membership Numbers
: I think the board needs to look at this and ask themselves if it is a product of the economy or a result of the club offerings and event procedures.
My point is that events like this could offer the best of both worlds with a little better planning. As for the discs, I don't care to have a commemorative disc (especially another putter) But, I know a lot of people do want them. So, instead of allocating $5 of the entry fee to that and making people take them, You should sell them as part of the club merch for $10/each and double your profits. Offering a super-pro reduces entry fee and still give people a payout, etc. It seems like gouging because you're charging more for an event you know will sell out, kind of like a Cards v. Cubs game or when the Blackhawks come to town...