Completely off topic, but oh well...HITMAN wrote:Ron,its true Unger will make you a better player but no more than any other course. practice makes you better not thowing a disc two feet from the pin and being OB.
Back in the day the top players complained about short wooded courses. They said they were "lucky" holes since no one should be able to consistently thread the needle on a wooded route and a lucky hacker could beat a more skilled player for no good reason. The buzz words in course design became "risk and reward." The risk and reward concept was that there was a bitchy-tough route to the hole to give you a birdie attempt and a safe route you could take for par. The good players could kick your behind if they hit the gaps on the birdie route while the hackers made their way around on the safe route. However, if the good players had a bad day and spent all day trying to save par out of the shule, a hacker having a good day could take them out. So there was risk in going the birdie route. You actually had to hit the lines.
Today I'm seeing more and more holes that have the tough birdie route with no safe route. So basically I'm forced to take the same shot the good players take. If the good player has a bad day, they just beat me by fewer strokes becasue I'm forced to throw out of the shule along with them. Too me it is that same thing as the "lucky" short holes, but becasue it favors the highly skilled players they don't complain. Disc golf is a 100% player-driven sport, and your reputation is based on what you do on the course. The highly regarded people are the best players. Since they don't mind the "all risk" holes, good luck complaining about it.
To me it's no big deal to have a safe route. If you want to compete you can't take the safe route, so those players who want to be challenged and be a top pro will not go that way. However, talentless hackers that make up the majority of the disc golf population (if I had a mirror here I'd be looking at one) can still enjoy a course if the holes have a safe route. By embracing this movement to Uber-hard courses with no safe routes, you built a specialty course that is going to appeal to a very small segment of the disc golf population. That might sound cool if you are part of that small segment, since you will get an mostly-empty course to play on. However in the big picture of promoting the sport to a larger % of the general population, somebody ought to keep the poor hacker in mind.
In other words...you can try to force me to take risky shots, but I'm still going to be a fat, 40+ weenie-armed hacker. No matter how many times I play Unger, I'm not going pro. Since it is a public course utilizing public land, there ought to be a way for me to play Unger without throwing $45.00 worth of plastic in the lake. If it was a private course on private land, I would have no problem with it and I would just decide if I wanted to go there or not. However, this is public land. You have a responsibility to keep the general public in mind when you use public land. I'm pretty sure that if anybody at the County actually understood disc golf, they would have a problem with the current design on these grounds.