Part of the issue here is that people (in St. Charles) hang out at the course talking about what is wrong with the RCF and ask questions like, Why doesn't that money get used on this side of the river. The answer is easy, contractual obligation. I'm sure Andy has not mentioned this to anyone, otherwise I think most people would understand and move forward with a St. Charles Club.
The RCF is the St. Louis Disc Golf Club and we have a contract with the St. Louis County Parks, which include Sioux Passage, Creve Coeur, Endicott, Unger and Jefferson Barracks. The contract states that we can use the courses, but we have to reserve the shelter/course for leagues, tournaments, and etc. i.e.: Times that we, as a club, are monopolizing the course. The course costs $75 to rent/close and the shelter is another $40. This is $115 each time we have an event. This year, there are 33 events on the RCF schedule, most of them are at 1 of the 5 courses listed above, covered in our contract with the county. The contract states a mutually beneficial situation for both our club and the park's dept.
It states, instead of spending $115 on rentals, take the $115 that you would spend on the rental and put that money back into the course. This lets us use the course, which means traffic in their parks, thus generating revenue for local business like restraints and gas stations. What does the club get out of it? Instead of paying a $3,000-$4,000 bill every year to the St. Louis County Parks, they allow us to put that amount of money back into the courses. This not only beautifies their/our parks, it allows us to provide a better course/playing experience for local disc golfers by using tha tmoney to install new benches, retaining walls, concrete tee pads, etc.
This makes it a win-win situation for both the St. Louis Co. Parks Dept and the River City Flyers. The RCF does not currently have an agreement like this with the St. Charles Parks Dept, which is why the money generated by the RCF stays on this side of the river. When I first got involved, this did not seem like a good way to "grow our sport" so, I invited some young and eager disc golfers from St. Charles to RCF meetings. They showed interest at first, but personal conflicts forced them to stop attending. Since then, I have invited Andy, as course captain, to come to meetings to "give St. Charles a voice." Which he has done. Unfortunately, I feel that has not done a lot to help the situation in St. Charles so we, the RCF board, voted to give $600 and free discs to Quail Ridge to help facilitate course improvements.
Again, unfortunately, we do not have an agreement with the St. Charles Co Parks Dept., which is why you don’t see more money coming across the river and being spent at Quail. I’m sure you’ve never heard is spelled out like that, which all I can do is apologize for since we’ve explained this to Andy for nearly a year.
Andy has drafted a contract for the St. Charles Parks Dept and submitted it. However, as with most government agencies, there is a lot of red tape that is has to pass through before it is approved. Part of the reason I think St. Charles has not started a club of their own is because Andy doesn’t want to do it and I don’t think anyone else wants to either. But if you’re going to have a club you need a leader.
As far as paying AMs in merch being another way to milk you for money, that is ridiculous to the point of being offensive. The prices the club has for merch is lower than any local shop or online dealer. Additionally, that is how it is done all over the country, amateurs are never paid out in cash. I didn’t make the rules, I just followed them.
It seems the problem most people have is that they expect this (volunteer) club to be run like a fortune 500 company. Unfortunately, we all have wives, family, jobs, hobbies and we all want a little time to play the game we work so hard to promote. The more volunteers we have the better off our club will be. Unfortunately, most people don’t have time or don’t want the responsibility. Trust me, no one understands as well and I do. You put your heart and soul into something, work your ass off, and for what? So a bunch of ungrateful people (that put nothing into making this sport better) complain at you and point out your mistakes and what you should have done.
Well, my advice to you sir, is to get off your high horse, quit being a back seat driver and take the reigns to make this sport better. What? You don’t have time, interest, responsibility? Well I wouldn’t expect to hear anything form you, but Thank You!
All volunteers should be thanked for what they do. Feel free to start wherever you want, here is a list
Ben, Morgan, Joe Hart
Time to get serious about having fun