JB Fall Doubles League

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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby gottagothrow on Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:04 am

Thanks D'oh.
Sorry I haven't been able to post the detailed scores yet, work finally got in the way...lol.

Anyway, not that my opinion matters too much here, but here are my thoughts.

We did say that we would do 3 "flights" from the get go... but that was before we knew
we wouldn't have the same number of teams from the summer session. We had 22 or 23 teams
from summer while we have 21 now, but I think the Sandersons are not "officially" in the fall league.
If they are not, then that makes only 20 teams... 11 Pro and 9 Ams with a real natural break in
divisions makes a LOT of sense to me. Competition for the top 3 spots would be really tight in
both flights if we do two flights.

Again though, Greg (and I) did say that we were doing 3 flights. So I would understand if a few
folks had serious heartburn with doing only 2 after thinking 3 all league. Although, the way we
play shouldn't change regardless of what flights break out to be.

I calculated ratings every week for every team. I analyzed the teams and their ratings from week
to week as well as comparing the ratings to the same teams as summer league, and it is apparent
that there is no sandbagging going on. There are a few anomalies, but these were due to hot
rounds that had nothing to do with where that particular team was in the flights (for either summer
or fall leagues).

Greg and I are quite confident that the breaks, while close for the 3 flight breakout,
as well as if we break out 2 flights this league, is mathematically sound. Based on scores, as well
as ratings.

My opinion is to have two flights, 11 Pro and 9 (or 10 if the sandersons are still in league) for the ams.

BTW, I am donating a lot of plastic for CTPs for the final week of league. One set of discs for the
Pros CTPs and one set for the Ams CTPs. So you will be competing against your own flight for the
CTPs, not everyone in league. How about them apples?

Keep in mind, if no one hits an ace next week (Sept. 22nd), then the final week of league (Sept. 29),
Greg will put put out multiple CTPs for the Ace moneys.... and I just realized, I will NOT be here for it.
DANG IT ! ! ! ! ! But I will be enjoying disc golf here: http://sdgo.se/course.aspx?HoleNumber=1
and you can read more here: http://www.discgolfsweden.se/English/index.aspx

Please voice your opinion on the flight situation... 2 flights or 3 flights.

Thanks for reading...
DD
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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby tyler23 on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:21 pm

I think 3 division splits keeps the field more competetive. The scores indicate that if we split the divsions in 2 most of the teams are way out of contention. AS most people know I really don't care if I win or not so my opionion isnt bias at any point in those statements.
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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby Strange on Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:46 pm

I HATE to agree w/ Tyler, but the more teams in actual competition for the final 2 weeks the better, so I say 3 divisions........unless you bump me & Andrew down to AM :lol:
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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby DISC N JEFF on Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:09 pm

i have to agree with tyler an strange. 3 divisions gives everybody a chance to place. the idea of more of a payout for only two is nice but that just puts way to many people out of contention. if there is only two divisions there should be some kind of a handicap for the newer players other wise it might run some players away from league since they would not have a chance. i dont know of any kind of handicaps ever used in disc golf besides a cali. but then again its already doubles. its just a thoght.

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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby gottagothrow on Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:53 pm

Good posts guys... I agree... 3 is now my opinion too...
I believe Greg was thinking that way as well. So, I think the decision is made.
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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby discdoh on Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:42 am

3 divisions it is. I pretty much had already come to this decision. Thanks for the input.
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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby discdoh on Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:46 am

Don't forget that we need to have everyone out on the course as close to 5PM as possible.
Here is some info for this weeks round...

JB Fall Doubles League
Week 7 FREE CTPs & 50/50s


50/50s – Hole 7A
Hole 18A

Pro Division CTPs – Hole 3A
Hole 11A
Hole 16A

Adv Division CTPs – Hole 1A
Hole 12B
Hole 15A

Am Division CTPs – Hole 4A
Hole 6A
Hole 14A

FREE CTP Disc List

1. Gateway S Element
2. Gateway S Warrior
3. Gateway SS Warlock
4. Gateway SS Voodoo
5. Gateway S Wizard
6. Innova Champion Orc – Blank
7. Innova Champion Boss
8. Discraft Z Surge SS
9. Gateway “Ta-Ta’s” Voodoo
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JB Fall Doubles League Week 7 Results

Postby gottagothrow on Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:39 pm

JB Fall Doubles League ‘09
Results after Week 7

THE LAST Group to tee-off for the LAST Week (8) of League will be NO LATER than 5 pm.
(Otherwise, our group risk playing in in the dark.)
OK, with that said, we realize players sometimes are late etc etc. So if you arrive after Greg's group
tees off at 5pm, then grab a card and head out. If you want in the Ace or 50/50 for the evening,
please contact Greg or myself before hand (call, email, whatever Greg would prefer).

No Aces were hit so the Ace Pool is still split.
Ace Pool # 1 is $ 200
Ace Pool # 2 is $ 177

SCORES
The 1st number (in bold) is your overall score with BOTH Drop weeks.
The 2nd number is simply the TOTAL (raw) Score.
Each of the numbers after the team name is 1st week, 2nd week, etc etc...
The drop weeks are in bold.

Pros
Score   Raw    Team                              Week  1      2     3      4      5      6     7     8
220  ~  316    Neil Brown / Mark Dudenhoffer   47    46    45    45    49    44    40
223  ~  318    BIG Andy / Ron Robertson          47    46    45    48    44    46    42
223  ~  320    Roger Reyes / Doug Bickell         45    48    49    45    44    47    42
230  ~  328    Greg Dohogne / Dan Doke          48    49    49    49    44    46    43
231  ~  335    Brad Fortman / Tom Greer         51    50    52    52    43    47    40
233  ~  340    Jay Baird / Brian Abernathy        53    54    48    44    47    48    46
235  ~  334    Matt Augustin / David Rose        46    48    50    49    49    49    43
238  ~  343    Tom Murdick / CALI                   50    53    49    52    48    47    44
553  ~  805    ROBO SINGLE                            126  126  126  126  126  126    49
Adv
239  ~  417    Eric Davis / Ryan Bax                  50    52    50    126   45    50    44
241  ~  345    Aaron Walther / Scott Houska      52    49    52    51    47    47    47
242  ~  347    Matt Wellman / Tyler Woytus       52    51    47    53    50    52    42
250  ~  358    Rick Strange / Andrew Hale          55    50    50    53    51    51    48
255  ~  507    Rich Nunn / CALI                        126  126   50    54    52    52    47
256  ~  367    Ernie McGinnis / Peter Etges        52    54    56    54    55    49    47
258  ~  371    Jeff Dixon / Derek Dixon              56    52    52    57    53    51    50
Ams
259  ~  369    Scott May / Raymond May             54    54    54    56    50    54    47
261  ~  373    Dan Fritz / Rick Johnson               54    56    53    54    56    51    49
262  ~  374    Jeff McCluskey / V. Alvarez           54    56    52    56    50    54    52
262  ~  446    Jim Lucas / CALI                         126   58    57    52    55    53    45
267  ~  386    Greg VanHorn / Vince Weber         58    58    59    60    51    50    50
270  ~  465    Jeff Halverson / Ken Snyder          69   126   62    56    48    55    49
417  ~  669    Chuck & Christine Sanderson         57   126   55    53   126   126  126

If Neither partner shows, a 126 is your score for that week.

Extras Extras, read all about it.
50 /50 #1 Hole 7A - Ron Robertson - $34
50 /50 #2 Hole 18A - Rick Johnson - $34 - Paid

ALL FREE CTPs

Pro
Hole 3A - Ron Robertson - Gateway S Wizard
Hole 11A – Tom Greer - Discraft Z Surge SS
Hole 16A – Brian Abernathy - Gateway S Element

Advanced
Hole 1A – Ryan Bax - Gateway SS Warlock
Hole 12B – Rich Nunn - Gateway S Warrior - PAID
Hole 15A – Matt Wellman - Innova Champion Boss - PAID

Amateur
Hole 4A – Jim Lucas - Gateway “Ta-Ta’s” Voodoo
Hole 6A – Jim Lucas - Innova Champion Orc
Hole 14A – Greg VanHorn - Gateway SS Voodoo

Something new this league, Greg and I are using a "Ratings" system to determine
splits. This system is modeled after the PDGA ratings system, but we are adapted
for Doubles league play. This should help make it fair to all. There are two key words
in the previous sentence, Help and Fair.

Any questions, please feel free to ask Greg D'OH or myself (Dan Doke).
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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby discdoh on Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:03 pm

JB Fall Doubles League ‘09
Results after Week 8

Thank you to everyone that took part in the Fall League. I hope everyone had a good time, with a little competition thrown in to boot.

Week 8 was a blast in my book! ACE POOL CTPs, FREE CTPs, 50/50s, seeded cards, tight competition…it was all there! Congratulations to all the winners!

No Aces were hit so the ACE POOL CTPs were all worth $50.

ACE POOL $400 = 8 X $50 ACE CTP

There were TWO drop weeks for the JB Fall League.
The 1st number (in bold) is your overall score with both drop weeks.
The 2nd number is simply the TOTAL (raw) Score.
Each of the numbers after the team name is 1st week, 2nd week, etc etc...
The drop weeks will be in bold.

Score Raw Team Week 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Pro division
259 ~ 355 Neil Brown / Mark Dudenhoffer 47 46 45 45 49 44 40 39
265 ~ 362 Roger Reyes / Doug Bickell 45 48 49 45 44 47 42 42
268 ~ 363 BIG Andy / Ron Robertson 47 46 45 48 44 46 42 45
275 ~ 382 Jay Baird / Brian Abernathy 53 54 48 44 47 48 46 42
276 ~ 374 Greg Dohogne / Dan Doke 48 49 49 49 44 46 43 46
276 ~ 375 Matt Augustin / David Rose 46 48 50 49 49 49 43 41
276 ~ 380 Brad Fortman / Tom Greer 51 50 52 52 43 47 40 45
287 ~ 392 Tom Murdick / CALI 50 53 49 52 48 47 44 49
604 ~ 856 John Ruvalcaba/ SINGLE 126126126126126126 49 51
Advanced Division
283 ~ 387 Aaron Walther / Scott Houska 52 49 52 51 47 47 47 42
285 ~ 463 Eric Davis / Ryan Bax 50 52 50 126 45 50 44 46
286 ~ 391 Matt Wellman / Tyler Woytus 52 51 47 53 50 52 42 44
294 ~ 402 Rick Strange / Andrew Hale 55 50 50 53 51 51 48 44
302 ~ 413 Ernie McGinnis / Peter Etges 52 54 56 54 55 49 47 46
306 ~ 419 Jeff Dixon / Derek Dixon 56 52 52 57 53 51 50 48
308 ~ 560 Rich Nunn / CALI 126 126 50 54 52 52 47 53
Amateur Division
307 ~ 419 Jeff McCluskey / V. Alvarez 54 56 52 56 50 54 52 45
309 ~ 419 Scott May / Raymond May 54 54 54 56 50 54 47 50
312 ~ 424 Dan Fritz / Rick Johnson 54 56 53 54 56 51 49 51
312 ~ 496 Jim Lucas / CALI 126 58 57 52 55 53 45 50
316 ~ 435 Greg VanHorn / Vince Weber 58 58 59 60 51 50 50 49
321 ~ 516 Jeff Halverson / Ken Snyder 69 126 62 56 48 55 49 51
543 ~ 795 Chuck / Christine Sanderson 57 126 55 53 126 126 126 126


50/50 #1 Hole 12 – Scott Houska $34.50 - PAID
50/50 #2 Hole 18 – Mark Dudenhoffer $34.50 - PAID

FREE CTP Hole 3 – Roger Reyes – Discraft 2001 Worlds MRV - PAID
FREE CTP Hole 10 – Jay Baird – Innova R-Pro Aviar - PAID
FREE CTP Hole 16 – Matt Augustin – Gateway Diablo DT

ACE CTP Hole 1 – Ryan Bax - $50
ACE CTP Hole 2 – Brian Abernathy - $50 - PAID
ACE CTP Hole 4 – Eric Davis - $50
ACE CTP Hole 6 – Jay Baird/Brad Fortman - $25/each - PAID
ACE CTP Hole 7 – Rick Strange - $50
ACE CTP Hole 14 – Rich Nunn - $50 - PAID
ACE CTP Hole 15 – Rich Nunn - $50 - PAID
ACE CTP Hole 18 – Vince Weber - $50
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Re: JB Fall Doubles League

Postby Strange on Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:37 am

Do you know if you're going to have any plastic up at the park today Doh? Not going to the pizza party & I've got a pocketful of $8 vouchers. Getting league plastic is harder than hitting an ace on #8D anymore
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